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A veteran interview with

Pat Thurlow

Pat Thurlow was a young conscript who did what all military men know you’re not supposed to do, he volunteered. Twice. In his case, they were both good moves and he found himself posted from RAF Bassignbourne to Wunstorf in Germany where he helped to keep the Berlin Airlift operational through all weathers.

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A veteran interview with

Pat Thurlow

Pat-thurlow

Pat Thurlow was a young conscript who did what all military men know you’re not supposed to do, he volunteered. Twice. In his case, they were both good moves and he found himself posted from RAF Bassignbourne to Wunstorf in Germany where he helped to keep the Berlin Airlift operational through all weathers.

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Thurlow, Pat. A Veteran Interview with Pat Thurlow. Interview by Unknown. Legasee, n.d. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pat-thurlow/. Accessed 18 Nov. 2025.
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Thurlow, P. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Pat Thurlow [Interview by Unknown]. Legasee. Retrieved November 18, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pat-thurlow/
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Thurlow, Pat. n.d.. A Veteran Interview with Pat Thurlow. Interview by Unknown. Legasee. Accessed November 18, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pat-thurlow/
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Thurlow, P. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Pat Thurlow. [Interviewed by Unknown]. Legasee. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pat-thurlow/ (Accessed: 18 November 2025)
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Thurlow, P. A Veteran Interview with Pat Thurlow [Internet]. Interview by Unknown. Legasee; n.d. [cited 2025 Nov 18]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pat-thurlow/
An interview with

John Whitlock

Since an early age John always wanted to fly and during the Airlift flew 356 trips to Berlin, once flying with a drunken pilot.

John wanted to fly since the age of ten, when, on the top deck of an open trolley bus he saw a Rapide biplane land at Croydon aerodrome. He joined the RAF during WW2 and later served as a signals engineer on the Avro York. Unknown to the crew his aircraft was used as a ‘guinea pig’ test of GCA (Ground Controlled Approach). GCA was a procedure where ground control guides the aircraft in during bad visibility and was widely used during the Berlin Airlift. This enabled aircraft to land every two to three minutes, even during the severe winter weather. During the Airlift John flew 356 trips and only one of these was aborted. One time he flew with a pilot who was so drunk that he was unable to carry out the pre-flight visual inspection but flew correctly once they were airborne. After a crash at Wunstorf which killed the crew, John served as one of the pallbearers at the funeral. He was in his early twenties and never thought about dying, believing that fate played a large part in matters of life and death. On the 60th anniversary of the Airlift the Berlin Airlift Association went to Templehof airfield in Berlin for a memorial service. Here he was thanked by the elderly and the very young, an experience he found moving. At the time of the Airlift he thought he was only doing his duty but later he became aware of its importance of it to Berliners.
An interview with

Dick Arscott

Dick flew aircraft into Berlin during the Airlift and on some occasions was harassed by Soviet aircraft, including simulated attacks and a game of ‘chicken’.

Dick joined the RAF in 1942, aged 19, and flew allied transport aircraft in the Far East, supplying Allied troops in the jungle. After the war he was in Transport Command, operating in Germany and Poland. He was due to go on leave, but the Soviets had just blockaded Berlin, and instead he began flying Dakota transports into Berlin from western Germany. Initially only two transports were involved but this built up rapidly despite the ‘organised chaos’ of the early days. Soon the pilots were working 18-hour days, flying three to four return flights to Berlin daily. During the winter the weather was bad, although not as severe as Dick had experienced during the war. A wide variety of cargoes were carried, from coal to disassembled bulldozers and hay for the Berlin Zoo. On the return flights light export goods and unwell German children were carried. Later he flew the Avro York, a larger aircraft with greater capacity than the Dakota. On at least two occasions there was a mix-up, and a Dakota was loaded with a York’s cargo. They managed to get to Berlin but only with the engines running at maximum power. The Soviet air force harassed the Allied aircraft, sometimes firing their guns over the planes, other times buzzing them as close as twenty feet. On one occasion Dick got tired of this behaviour, turned his plane around and flew directly at the Soviet aircraft, which took evasive action. He thinks that the Airlift prevented another war.
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An interview with

Michel Bourbon-Parme 

Michel recalls his perilous experiences as a Jedburgh in the Office of Strategic Services, aiding the resistance movement from behind enemy lines

Michel Bourbon-Parme was the son of Prince René of Bourbon-Parma and Princess Margaret of Denmark and grew up in Paris. With the help of the French counsel, he joined the American Army at Fort Benning Georgia and became a second lieutenant. Michel recalls being asked to join the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) by Bill Casey (who later would become the head of the CIA) and travelling to Washington to an intelligence agency to learn how to use specialist equipment. After three weeks training, he was sent to Milton Hall in England and became part of Operation Jedburgh, an allied special operations group. He was parachuted into occupied France after partnering with another Jedburgh named Tommy Macpherson, forming the team named Quinine. He was the youngest Jedburgh at age seventeen and a half. He joined with the Maquis, who were part of the French resistance to stop the Das Reich division and blew up the Eiffel bridge (made by famed architect Gustave Eiffel) to slow them down. He then stayed behind enemy lines for three months to sabotage the Germans. Michel reflects on the being among the first to liberate his countries forces, the politics of the British, French and American’s working together, and the legacy of important achievements by the Jedburgh’s he was proud to be a part of.
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