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A veteran interview with

Pam & Marj

Marjorie Lilley and Pamela Elliot sit together to reminisce about their service with the Auxiliary Territorial service.

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A veteran interview with

Pam & Marj

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Marjorie Lilley and Pamela Elliot sit together to reminisce about their service with the Auxiliary Territorial service.

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Marj, Pam. A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj. Interview by Unknown. Legasee, n.d. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/. Accessed 13 Jun. 2026.
APA Style:
Marj, P. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj [Interview by Unknown]. Legasee. Retrieved June 13, 2026, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/
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Marj, Pam. n.d.. A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj. Interview by Unknown. Legasee. Accessed June 13, 2026. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/
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Marj, P. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj. [Interviewed by Unknown]. Legasee. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/ (Accessed: 13 June 2026)
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Marj, P. A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj [Internet]. Interview by Unknown. Legasee; n.d. [cited 2026 Jun 13]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/
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