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A veteran interview with

Pam & Marj

Marjorie Lilley and Pamela Elliot sit together to reminisce about their service with the Auxiliary Territorial service.

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A veteran interview with

Pam & Marj

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Marjorie Lilley and Pamela Elliot sit together to reminisce about their service with the Auxiliary Territorial service.

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Marj, Pam. A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj. Interview by Unknown. Legasee, n.d. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/. Accessed 17 Apr. 2025.
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Marj, P. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj [Interview by Unknown]. Legasee. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/
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Marj, Pam. n.d.. A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj. Interview by Unknown. Legasee. Accessed April 17, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/
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Marj, P. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj. [Interviewed by Unknown]. Legasee. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/ (Accessed: 17 April 2025)
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Marj, P. A Veteran Interview with Pam & Marj [Internet]. Interview by Unknown. Legasee; n.d. [cited 2025 Apr 17]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/pam-marj/
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