Home | Veterans | Mary Overill
Mary-Overhill-

A veteran interview with

Mary Overill

Mary Overill gives a wonderful interview about her life with the WAAF. As a Devonian, country girl, the war provided opportunities and experiences.

Play video
Watch the interview

About Mary Overill

For Mary Overill, the war offered opportunities for life and work far beyond the bounds of her rural upbringing… although her first posting upon joining the WAAF sent her only 22 miles away to Plymouth! Six months later, Mary was posted to RAF St Eval in Cornwall where she worked with Squadron Leader Shackleton, son of the famous explorer, and she shares her memories of life and work during this time.

In 1943, Mary was called to the Air Ministry in London, where she signed the Official Secrets Act and began working at the Cabinet Office Cipher Office (COCO). She vividly recalls operations there, and how regularly she saw Winston Churchill ‘disappearing off somewhere else’ in the building.

Mary also shares memories of living in London during the war, navigating the dangers of bombings and experiencing the joy of VE Day. Her stories provide a glimpse into her extraordinary life during wartime, both at the RAF bases of her service and in the heart of London itself.

Credits

Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Caroline Barratt

Transcripts:
Please note that transcripts and closed captions in the video player are automatically generated by Vimeo.

Copyright:
All video content, web site design, graphics, images (including submitted content), text, the selection and arrangement thereof, underlying source code, software and all other material on this Web site are the copyright of Legasee Educational Trust, and its affiliates, or their content and technology providers. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Any use of materials on this Web site – including reproduction for purposes other than those noted above, modification, distribution, or republication – without the prior written permission of Legasee Educational Trust is strictly prohibited.

Home | Veterans | Mary Overill

A veteran interview with

Mary Overill

Mary-Overhill-

Mary Overill gives a wonderful interview about her life with the WAAF. As a Devonian, country girl, the war provided opportunities and experiences.

Related topics & talking points

Veteran gallery

Photos & memories

Keep on watching

More veteran stories...

Share this interview on:

https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/mary-overill/

Cite this interview:

MLA Style:
Overill, Mary. A Veteran Interview with Mary Overill. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, n.d. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/mary-overill/. Accessed 15 Nov. 2025.
APA Style:
Overill, M. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Mary Overill [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved November 15, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/mary-overill/
Chicago Style:
Overill, Mary. n.d.. A Veteran Interview with Mary Overill. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee. Accessed November 15, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/mary-overill/
Harvard Style:
Overill, M. (n.d.). A Veteran Interview with Mary Overill. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/mary-overill/ (Accessed: 15 November 2025)
Vancouver Style:
Overill, M. A Veteran Interview with Mary Overill [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; n.d. [cited 2025 Nov 15]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/mary-overill/
An interview with

Clifford Thomas

Joining the RAF at 18 he served in Berlin during the Airlift and was aware of the gratitude felt by the Germans.

After losing his job at a timber yard Clifford joined the RAF just before the conscription age of eighteen. When he had completed his training, he was posted to Gatow in Germany, the main British airfield, at the start of the Airlift in June 1948. He was a clerical worker, ensuring the safe and rapid turnaround of hundreds of flights, as well as performing guard duty and manual work. During the Airlift disassembled vehicles and food were delivered and on the return journey they brought back sick children and post, which was forwarded. There were large numbers of Germans working on the base, alongside the RAF personnel and during the Airlift the western Allies began to be seen as defenders, rather than occupiers. He remembers the appreciation of German children and parents when he and his comrades gave the children a Christmas party on the base. The British troops paid for this and gave gifts of chocolate bars and oranges to the youngsters. In Berlin he acquired an appreciation of opera, made good friends and had a German girlfriend. Marrying German women however was frowned on by the British authorities. One episode he recalls vividly is getting very drunk on his 21st birthday and being disciplined by his superior officer. Clifford felt that he matured from a boy to a man during his time in Berlin and was sad to leave. Some of his companions thought that the Germans deserved all they got but that was not his opinion.
An interview with

Stanley David

He was involved in the war from fifteen and became a gunner in the RAF.

At the age of fifteen Stanley left school and became an Air Raid Precautions messenger. When he reached eighteen he volunteered for the RAF. He became a gunner on a bomber and carried out over 50 missions. Once his aircraft was caught by searchlights and received anti-aircraft fire, which they escaped by corkscrew diving 9000 feet. Many of the flights were with 624 Squadron, assigned to Special Operations Executive, dropping agents and supplies into enemy occupied territory. These drops were often at very low altitude and at the maximum of the aircraft range, with barely enough fuel to return home. He realised at the time that many of the agents, several of whom were women, would not survive very long. Looking back Stanley thought that he, and others, were too young and foolish to be scared. He regards his time with the RAF as the most interesting part of his life.
Service:
Interviewed by:
Martyn Cox
An interview with

Bella Bailey

A woman of discipline with the heart of an adventurer who served in the Woman's Auxiliary Air Force

Bella Bailey reflects on her fascinating journey with the Women's Auxiliary Air Force (WAAF) which changed her life forever. Struggling to find a purpose in post war Britain, Bella decided to join the RAF after discovering a notice for female recruits. Against her mother's wishes, she left home to train at a camp in Winslow. Showing a keen interest for puzzles, she later landed a job as a code messenger at Bletchley park which she thoroughly enjoyed, adapting quickly to the strict accuracy which the role required. Eventually she was posted to a camp in Lubeck, Germany which excited her adventurous spirit. She recalls the train ride through Germany, seeing the devastation caused by the bombings. During the Berlin Airlift, she continued to use a telex machine to send coded messages for important tasks such as reporting what food supplies the planes were transporting from one place to another. Outside of work, she explored Lubeck, learning to relax and have fun with her two friends May and Marj. Despite the tenseness of the atmosphere, the locals were friendly and the soldiers remained civil which made the environment feel safe and comfortable for them. She recalls one mischievous act in which she convinced a pilot to take her to Berlin which could only be done during her twenty four hour shift. Before they could lift off, the corporal caught her and sent her to cookhouse duties for a week. At the time of this interview, Bella has still not visited Berlin. The experience she gained left a profound impact on her life and would benefit her later when given the opportunity to work for the government in the diplomatic wire service. Bella's interview shows the life of a woman who understood discipline, harnessing it effortlessly into their skillset without obstructing her sense of fun and adventure.        
Photo Gallery icon 4 Photos