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A veteran interview with

Liz Ormerod

Liz was interviewed on the same day as her husband Howard who was also in the Falklands. He was on the Atlantic Conveyor.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Marguerita Misconi
Transcribed by:
Lynsey Ford

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A veteran interview with

Liz Ormerod

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Liz was interviewed on the same day as her husband Howard who was also in the Falklands. He was on the Atlantic Conveyor.

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MLA Style:
Ormerod, Liz. A Veteran Interview with Liz Ormerod. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 5 Apr. 2022 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/liz-ormerod/. Accessed 25 May. 2025.
APA Style:
Ormerod, L. (2022, April 5). A Veteran Interview with Liz Ormerod [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved May 25, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/liz-ormerod/
Chicago Style:
Ormerod, Liz. 2022. A Veteran Interview with Liz Ormerod. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, April 5. Accessed May 25, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/liz-ormerod/
Harvard Style:
Ormerod, L. (2022). A Veteran Interview with Liz Ormerod. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 5 April. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/liz-ormerod/ (Accessed: 25 May 2025)
Vancouver Style:
Ormerod, L. A Veteran Interview with Liz Ormerod [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2022 Apr 5 [cited 2025 May 25]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/liz-ormerod/
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