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A veteran interview with

Lisa Kirkpatrick

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About Lisa Kirkpatrick

Lisa Kirkpatrick’s husband Gary had an accident on an army training exercise. Engaged at the time and with a new baby, Lisa struggled to cope and Gary’s mental health was suffering.

Watch as Lisa describes the support they received from Help for Heroes’ Band of Sisters which led to her becoming an ambassador for the charity.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Amanda Akhuemokhan
Transcribed by:
Harriet Peacock

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MLA Style:
Kirkpatrick, Lisa. A Veteran Interview with Lisa Kirkpatrick. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 22 Oct. 2019 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/lisa-kirkpatrick/. Accessed 6 Jun. 2026.
APA Style:
Kirkpatrick, L. (2019, October 22). A Veteran Interview with Lisa Kirkpatrick [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved June 6, 2026, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/lisa-kirkpatrick/
Chicago Style:
Kirkpatrick, Lisa. 2019. A Veteran Interview with Lisa Kirkpatrick. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, October 22. Accessed June 6, 2026. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/lisa-kirkpatrick/
Harvard Style:
Kirkpatrick, L. (2019). A Veteran Interview with Lisa Kirkpatrick. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 22 October. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/lisa-kirkpatrick/ (Accessed: 6 June 2026)
Vancouver Style:
Kirkpatrick, L. A Veteran Interview with Lisa Kirkpatrick [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2019 Oct 22 [cited 2026 Jun 6]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/lisa-kirkpatrick/
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