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A veteran interview with

Karen Mallion

Karen Mallion started her military career in the WRAC but progressed up through the ranks of the AGC

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About Karen Mallion

In this interview Karen shares an inspiring story which began with her passion for sports and a determination to transgress the roles available to women in the army.

Although she began her WRAC journey as a chef, she had plans to be a Physical Training Instructor and it was only after serving two years in Cyprus as a cook that she applied for her second trade. Karen describes how she passed the initial selection but suffered an unfortunate ankle injury which prevented her from completing the specialised PTI training.

Feeling lost after her injury, she recalls the frustration she began to feel with the options available to women in the WRAC and considered leaving. Therefore, for Karen, the disbandment of the WRAC came as a sign that she and many other women alike could move forward and beyond the restraints of female specific roles.

At Deep Cut she trialled for the military training instructors course with the Royal Army Ordnance Corps, and in her interview describes the constant discrimination she faced in such a male dominated field. Karen became the first female instructor and went on to serve as Sergeant Major in Bosnia, Macedonia and Iraq before her career was ended by misfortune. This interview provides an example of one of the many trailblazing veterans of the WRAC.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Evie Painter
Transcribed by:
Lesley Rhind

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A veteran interview with

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Karen-Mallion

Karen Mallion started her military career in the WRAC but progressed up through the ranks of the AGC

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MLA Style:
Mallion, Karen. A Veteran Interview with Karen Mallion. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 18 Apr. 2024 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/karen-mallion/. Accessed 15 Jul. 2025.
APA Style:
Mallion, K. (2024, April 18). A Veteran Interview with Karen Mallion [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved July 15, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/karen-mallion/
Chicago Style:
Mallion, Karen. 2024. A Veteran Interview with Karen Mallion. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, April 18. Accessed July 15, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/karen-mallion/
Harvard Style:
Mallion, K. (2024). A Veteran Interview with Karen Mallion. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 18 April. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/karen-mallion/ (Accessed: 15 July 2025)
Vancouver Style:
Mallion, K. A Veteran Interview with Karen Mallion [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2024 Apr 18 [cited 2025 Jul 15]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/karen-mallion/
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