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A veteran interview with

John Clarke

John Clarke gives a brutal and compelling account of his experiences as an infantryman with The Black Watch during the Second World War.

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Born in Manchester and raised in foster care, John Clarke became an apprentice at sixteen before joining The Black Watch, following in his grandfather’s footsteps. After training in Scotland as part of the 6th Battalion, he was deployed to Tunisia, where he fought at Sidi Medienne and helped rescue wounded prisoners from an enemy ship—a highlight of his service.

He later trained in Cairo, before being stationed high up the Aurunci Mountains in Italy with the British division in the American 5th Army. John joined the 12th Brigade in Cassino and remembers the chaos around Monte Cassino monastery, the heavy casualties, and the many acts of bravery.

Post-war, he joined the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, managing the armoury in Gaza. John reflects on his military career, recalling memorable moments including meeting Winston Churchill. For John, the friends he made during the war became the family he never had growing up.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Vicky Barnes

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A veteran interview with

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John Clarke gives a brutal and compelling account of his experiences as an infantryman with The Black Watch during the Second World War.

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MLA Style:
Clarke, John. A Veteran Interview with John Clarke. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 8 Oct. 2012 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/john-clarke/. Accessed 23 May. 2025.
APA Style:
Clarke, J. (2012, October 8). A Veteran Interview with John Clarke [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved May 23, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/john-clarke/
Chicago Style:
Clarke, John. 2012. A Veteran Interview with John Clarke. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, October 8. Accessed May 23, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/john-clarke/
Harvard Style:
Clarke, J. (2012). A Veteran Interview with John Clarke. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 8 October. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/john-clarke/ (Accessed: 23 May 2025)
Vancouver Style:
Clarke, J. A Veteran Interview with John Clarke [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2012 Oct 8 [cited 2025 May 23]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/john-clarke/
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