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A veteran interview with

Joe Pitcher

Joe Pitcher was a DEMS gunner on many Merchant ships. That he survived the war was more down to luck than judgement

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About Joe Pitcher

When Joe Pitcher was called up into the Royal Navy in 1941, his military career began at HMS Glendower, a training facility preparing sailors for service on defensively equipped merchant ships (DEMS).

Throughout his ensuing service, Joe sailed on the coastal, Atlantic, Mediterranean and Pacific convoys. He shares his memories of how it felt each time he changed ship and had to get used to working with a completely new crew, and adapting to the ship’s life and rules. He also remembers with wry humour a number of near misses along the way, including a scramble to find an ammunition locker stopcock, dodging a bullet from a round accidentally fired off by a young sailor in the mess, and surviving two separate torpedo hits on the same ship.

Joe’s service ended in Singapore where the true horrors of war were brought into sharp focus when the hospital ship he was on took aboard countless near-to-death POWs. With great modesty, Joe says he was glad to have been able to do his bit, and shares with deep emotion his gratitude for surviving the war when so many others weren’t so lucky.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Caroline Barratt

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A veteran interview with

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Joe Pitcher was a DEMS gunner on many Merchant ships. That he survived the war was more down to luck than judgement

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MLA Style:
Pitcher, Joe. A Veteran Interview with Joe Pitcher. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 18 Jun. 2014 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/joe-pitcher/. Accessed 18 Oct. 2026.
APA Style:
Pitcher, J. (2014, June 18). A Veteran Interview with Joe Pitcher [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved October 18, 2026, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/joe-pitcher/
Chicago Style:
Pitcher, Joe. 2014. A Veteran Interview with Joe Pitcher. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, June 18. Accessed October 18, 2026. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/joe-pitcher/
Harvard Style:
Pitcher, J. (2014). A Veteran Interview with Joe Pitcher. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 18 June. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/joe-pitcher/ (Accessed: 18 October 2026)
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Pitcher, J. A Veteran Interview with Joe Pitcher [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2014 Jun 18 [cited 2026 Oct 18]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/joe-pitcher/
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Frank Bewley, born in London in 1931, joined the Royal Navy as a volunteer in 1948 and was initially posted to RNAS Culdrose, where he recalls early trials of jets landing without undercarriage. He volunteered for Korea and joined 821 Squadron, which trained at RAF Makrihanish before heading to Korea in 1952. He served on HMS Glory, which flew old World War II Firefly 5s for ground support. He was responsible for maintaining his assigned aircraft and had a close relationship with his pilot, Lieutenant Barrett. Initially unfamiliar with Korea, he learned about its history through old World War II books. He found HMS Glory more friendly than other ships, but prone to rolling. He describes the challenges of working on the flight deck, where a lot of maintenance and arming work was completed, in inclement weather and the camaraderie among the crew. They still operated on messdecks containing up to 14 men, sleeping in hammocks and collecting food form the galley, rather than having a central canteen.
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