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A veteran interview with

Jack Lyon

Jack Lyon was captured and taken POW when his Whitley bomber crashed over Germany. He was taken to Stalag Luft III

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Jack Lyon was commissioned into the Royal Air Force in 1941 and served as a navigator and bomb aimer on Whitley bombers. On only his third operational mission, a failing engine and intense enemy fire forced his crew to bail out over Germany. Captured and treated with surprising civility, Jack became a prisoner of war.

He was later interned at Stalag Luft III, where he became involved in the planning of the infamous “Great Escape.” Drawn 79th in the lottery of escapees, he narrowly missed getting out when the operation was cut short after 76 had exited the tunnel. Jack later reflected that this near miss may have saved his life, as many escapees were executed by the Gestapo. Throughout his incarceration, he remained remarkably reflective, sharing stories of camaraderie, survival, and unexpected compassion—even from enemy soldiers. His interview is a testament to resilience, duty, and the enduring human spirit.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Lucy Smith

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A veteran interview with

Jack Lyon

Jack-Lyon

Jack Lyon was captured and taken POW when his Whitley bomber crashed over Germany. He was taken to Stalag Luft III

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MLA Style:
Lyon, Jack. A Veteran Interview with Jack Lyon. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 17 Aug. 2015 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/jack-lyon/. Accessed 18 Oct. 2026.
APA Style:
Lyon, J. (2015, August 17). A Veteran Interview with Jack Lyon [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved October 18, 2026, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/jack-lyon/
Chicago Style:
Lyon, Jack. 2015. A Veteran Interview with Jack Lyon. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, August 17. Accessed October 18, 2026. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/jack-lyon/
Harvard Style:
Lyon, J. (2015). A Veteran Interview with Jack Lyon. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 17 August. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/jack-lyon/ (Accessed: 18 October 2026)
Vancouver Style:
Lyon, J. A Veteran Interview with Jack Lyon [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2015 Aug 17 [cited 2026 Oct 18]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/jack-lyon/
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