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A veteran interview with

Fred Estall

Fred Estall gives a good account of his life as a Gunner onboard a Defensively Equipped Merchant Ships [DEMS].

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About Fred Estall

With a long-held ambition to join the Navy, Fred Estall keenly awaited the arrival of his call-up papers, which sent him first to Pwllheli in north Wales for initial sea training and then to HMS Wellesley in Liverpool for gun training. He passed out as a DEMS gunner (Defensively Equipped Merchant Ship) and went to Nova Scotia – via HMS Belfast and RMS Queen Mary – to join the crew of a Merchant Navy oil tanker.

Fred talks about life on board, describing the extra work available to anyone willing to get his hands dirty – which he always was, not only because he could earn more money, but also because keeping busy helped him keep his mind off the U-boats. He explains the stark difference between the atmosphere of camaraderie in the Royal Navy and the Merchant Navy, and talks about the distinct lack of entertainment onboard a merchant ship.

Recalling heavy seas, storms and the huge expanse of ocean, Fred’s memories bring vividly to life what it was like to move from tanker to tanker while the world was at war, keeping allied ships fuelled from 1940 – 1944.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Caroline Barratt

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A veteran interview with

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Fred Estall gives a good account of his life as a Gunner onboard a Defensively Equipped Merchant Ships [DEMS].

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MLA Style:
Estall, Fred. A Veteran Interview with Fred Estall. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 8 Apr. 2014 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/fred-estall/. Accessed 15 Jan. 2026.
APA Style:
Estall, F. (2014, April 8). A Veteran Interview with Fred Estall [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved January 15, 2026, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/fred-estall/
Chicago Style:
Estall, Fred. 2014. A Veteran Interview with Fred Estall. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, April 8. Accessed January 15, 2026. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/fred-estall/
Harvard Style:
Estall, F. (2014). A Veteran Interview with Fred Estall. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 8 April. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/fred-estall/ (Accessed: 15 January 2026)
Vancouver Style:
Estall, F. A Veteran Interview with Fred Estall [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2014 Apr 8 [cited 2026 Jan 15]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/fred-estall/
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