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Betty-Webb

A veteran interview with

Betty Webb

Charlotte Elizabeth Webb MBE. who worked at Bletchley Park and then went onto serve in the WRAC

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About Betty Webb

Joining during the Second World War, Betty was sent to train at the Welsh Barracks near Wrexham.

After performing well in her tests, she was sent to interview with the Intelligence Corps in London. She remembers being immediately taken to sign the Official Secrets Act and proceed to working in listing translated messages in Bletchley. It was at this posting that she discovered her talent for paraphrasing, and from this point onwards was given the task of paraphrasing translated enemy messages to be sent on to Burma.

Remarkably, Betty was then sent to work in the Pentagon before moving to the British Army Staff base in Washington DC. In her interview she describes the lack of news made available to American civilians surrounding the war in Europe, and her frustration at the lack of understanding future employment had on the highly classified status of her military work.

When asked her thoughts on the disbandment of the WRAC, Betty felt disappointed that there was no longer a women’s army as she enjoyed the independent identification of the female corps.

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Interviewed by:
Martin Bisiker
Reviewed by:
Evie Painter
Transcribed by:
Gillian Cousins

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A veteran interview with

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Betty-Webb

Charlotte Elizabeth Webb MBE. who worked at Bletchley Park and then went onto serve in the WRAC

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MLA Style:
Webb, Betty. A Veteran Interview with Betty Webb. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, 21 Mar. 2024 https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/betty-webb/. Accessed 12 Dec. 2025.
APA Style:
Webb, B. (2024, March 21). A Veteran Interview with Betty Webb [Interview by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee. Retrieved December 12, 2025, from https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/betty-webb/
Chicago Style:
Webb, Betty. 2024. A Veteran Interview with Betty Webb. Interview by Martin Bisiker. Legasee, March 21. Accessed December 12, 2025. https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/betty-webb/
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Webb, B. (2024). A Veteran Interview with Betty Webb. [Interviewed by Martin Bisiker]. Legasee, 21 March. Available at https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/betty-webb/ (Accessed: 12 December 2025)
Vancouver Style:
Webb, B. A Veteran Interview with Betty Webb [Internet]. Interview by M. Bisiker. Legasee; 2024 Mar 21 [cited 2025 Dec 12]. Available from: https://www.legasee.org.uk/veteran/betty-webb/
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